Growing up, Kiese Laymon thought of himself as a city kid. But he spent his childhood with a foot in two worlds: his mom's house in the capital city of Jackson, Mississippi and his grandma's house in a rural country town.

It wasn't until Kiese left Mississippi that he came to understand that this question of city versus country actually meant a lot more. It carries a lot of baggage: the tensions between north and south, tectonic historical forces, and the contradictions of life in Mississippi.

In this episode, our producer Justine Paradis sits down with writer Kiese Laymon for a conversation on this question of country versus city, what that has to do with the history of Black life in this country, and the story of Kiese's first children's picture book, his latest in a lifelong exploration of a complicated love of Mississippi.

If you'd like to read more by Kiese, we recommend "Da Art of Storytellin' (A Prequel)," his essay about Outkast, his grandmother, and stank. (Oxford American)

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Our team also includes Felix Poon and Marina Henke.

NHPR's Director of Podcasts is Rebecca Lavoie.

Music by Pandaraps, Amber Spill, blacksona, Matt Large, Caro Luna, bomull, Sarah the Illstrumentalist, Lee Rosevere, and Blue Dot Sessions.