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Q2 2025 Oracle Corp Earnings Call


Q2 2025 Oracle Corp Earnings Call

Safra Catz; Chief Executive Officer, Principal Financial Officer, Director; Oracle Corp

Lawrence Ellison; Chairman of the Board, Founder, Chief Technology Officer; Oracle Corp

John DiFucci; Analyst; Guggenheim Securities LLC

Operator

Thank you for standing by and welcome to the Oracle Corporation second quarter, fiscal year 2025 earnings conference call. (Operator Instructions)

Thank you. I'd now like to turn the call over to Ken Bond head of Investor relations. You may begin.

Ken Bond

Thank you, Rob. And good afternoon, everyone and welcome to Oracle's second quarter fiscal year 2025 earnings conference call. A copy of the press release and financial tables which includes a GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation and other supplemental financial information can be viewed and downloaded from our investor relations website.

Additionally, a list of many customers who purchased Oracle Cloud services or went live on Oracle Cloud recently will be available from our investor relations website as well.

On the call today are Chairman and Chief Technology Officer, Larry Ellison; and Chief Executive Officer Safra Catz.

As a reminder, today's discussion will include forward-looking statements, including predictions, expectations, estimates or other information that might be considered forward-looking. Throughout today's discussion, we will present some important factors relating to our business which may potentially affect these forward-looking statements.

And these forward-looking statements are also subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from statements being made today. As a result, we caution you from placing undue reliance on these forward-looking statements and we encourage you to review our most recent reports including our 10-K and 10-Q and any applicable amendments for complete discussion of these factors and other risks that may affect our future results or the market price of our stock.

And finally, we are not obligating ourselves to revise our results or these forward-looking statements in light of new information or future events. Before taking questions, we'll begin with a few prepared remarks.

And with that, I'd like to turn the call over to Safra.

Safra Catz

Thanks Ken, and good afternoon, everyone. Q2 was another excellent quarter with total revenue at the high end of my constant currency guidance and EPS was actually a cent above the high end. These results are being driven by the fact that our largest revenue component, cloud services and license support now represents 77% of total revenue and is also our fastest growing line item, which in turn is driving the acceleration of overall revenue growth.

We expect cloud revenue to reach $25 billion this fiscal year. This is happening for several reasons. First, our cloud is faster and thus less expensive than other clouds. We remain the preferred cloud for AI workloads as well as for non-GPU cloud infrastructure services.

In addition, our ability to deploy our cloud in many sizes gives our customers flexibility and our multicloud agreements with Microsoft, Google and AWS provide customers more choice in how they can migrate their Oracle databases to the cloud. And our strategic SaaS applications continue to grow rapidly, and we are also seeing more of our industry based cloud applications come online which immediately contribute to revenue growth.

You can see all of this in the momentum in the acceleration of our cloud growth and the 50% growth of our $97 billion RPO number remaining performance obligation. And today, we're telling you again, that revenue growth will accelerate further in the coming quarters.

Turning to Q2. And I want to remind you that our quarter ended on Saturday a week ago, and here we are announcing our results and that's only possible because we use Oracle fusion. Now as for the numbers, we saw all segments exceeding our internal forecast.

Now as the dollar strengthened in the quarter, the 1% currency benefit for total revenue and the $0.02 to $0.03 benefit for EPS that were present in my August guidance retreated with total revenue and EPS in Q2 essentially unaffected by currency movements. As usual, as I go over things today, I'll be discussing our financials using constant currency growth rate and this is how we manage the business.

So here it goes. Total cloud revenue that SaaS and IAS were up 24% at $5.9 billion, with SaaS revenue of $3.5 billion, up 10% and IAS revenue of $2.4 billion, up 52% on top of the 50% growth reported last year. As a reminder, we exited the advertising business last quarter which had the effect of lowering the total cloud revenue growth by 2% this quarter.

Total cloud services and license support for the quarter was $10.8 billion, up 12% driven again by OCI our strategic cloud applications and autonomous database. Infrastructure subscription revenues which include license support worth $6 billion, up 17%. Record level AI demand drove Oracle Cloud infrastructure revenue up 52%. But excluding legacy hosting infrastructure, cloud services revenue was up 55%.

Our infrastructure cloud services now have an annualized revenue of $9.7 billion. OCI consumption revenue was up 58% as demand continues to outstrip supply. Growth in the AI segment of our infrastructure business was extraordinary, GPU consumption was up 336% in the quarter, and we delivered the world's largest and fastest AI supercomputer scaling up to 65,000, NVIDIA H200 GPUs.

Cloud database services which were up 28% and now have an annualized revenue of $2.2 billion. As on premise, databases migrate to the cloud on OCI either directly or through our database at cloud services with Azure, Google, and AWS, we expect the cloud database revenues collectively will be the third leg of revenue growth alongside OCI and strategics SaaS.

We currently -- we are currently live in 17 cloud regions with database at cloud services and have another 35 planned with Azure, Google, and AWS. Database subscription services which include database license support were up 5%.

Application subscription revenues which includes product support were $4.8 billion and up 7%. Our strategic back-office SaaS applications now have annualized revenue of $8.4 billion and were up 18%. Software license revenues were up 3% to $1.2 billion including Java which saw excellent growth. So all in total revenues for the quarter were $14.1 billion, up 9% from last year.

Now, shifting to gross profit and operating income. The gross profit dollars of cloud services and license support grew 9% in Q2, as our cloud businesses continue to scale the gross margins of both cloud applications and cloud infrastructure have each been trending higher.

We continue to display expense discipline which of course we're known for, especially with R&D sales and marketing and G&A expenses which collectively continue to grow slower than revenue. A trend that I expect to continue.

The Q2 operating income grew 10%, and the operating margin was 43%, up 60 basis points from last year. The non-GAAP tax rate for the quarter was actually 20.1% which is higher than my 19% guidance. Even if the higher tax rate lowered EPS by $0.02, we still hit the high end of my constant currency guidance.

Absolutely, we did that. The non-GAAP EPS was a $1.47, in US Dollars up 10% in USD and 10% in constant currency. The GAAP EPS was a $1.10 in USD, and that's up 24% in USD and 23% in constant currency.

At quarter end, we had $11.3 billion in cash and marketable securities. The short term deferred revenue balance was $9.4 billion, up 8%. With CapEx at $4 billion for the quarter free cash flow was negative $2.7 billion and operating cash flow was positive $1.3 billion.

Given the demand that you see in our RPO numbers and the additional demand we see in our pipeline, I expect fiscal year 2025 CapEx will be double what it was in fiscal year FY24. As always, we remain careful to pace and align our CapEx investments appropriately and in line with booking trends. On a trailing 12-month basis, operating cash flow was up 19% at $20.3 billion and free cash flow was $9.5 billion.

Our remaining performance obligation or RPO is now at $97.3 billion, up 50% in constant currency and reflects the growing trend of customers wanting larger and longer contract. As they see firsthand how Oracle Cloud services are benefiting their businesses. Further, our cloud RPO grew near -- our cloud RPO grew nearly 80% and now represents nearly three-fourth of total RPO.

Approximately 39% of the total RPO is expected to be recognized as revenue over the next 12 months. And we continue to see the growth of current RPO accelerate.

We have now about 98 cloud regions live and many more to follow. That we have more cloud regions than any of the other hyper scalar reflects the strategic advantage of our Gen 2 architecture. We can start a new cloud region with a handful of racks and then scale up with customer demands.

Additionally, our data centers are highly automated and identical in features and function varying only in scale. This sizing flexibility and deployment optionality of our cloud regions continue to be a significant advantage for us.

As we've said before, we're committed to returning value to our shareholders through technical innovation acquisitions, stock repurchases, prudent use of debt, and a dividend. This quarter, we repurchase nearly a million shares for a total of $150 million. In addition, we paid out dividends of $4.4 billion over the last 12 months. And the Board of Directors again declared a quarterly dividend of $0.40 per share.

Before I dive into specific Q3 guidance, I'd like to share some overarching thoughts about the financial benefits I expect we will see over the coming quarters and years. To start, we continue to see excellent demand for our cloud services which you see in our RPO growth.

And while this growth is stellar, our pipeline is actually growing even faster and our win rates are growing higher with the recent win at meta being a prime example of why we expect that our RPO balance will climb again Q3. Meta was not booked in the Q2 quarter only in Q3.

In fiscal year 2024, we signed some big deals, and many have begun to generate revenue. We expect that those will continue to ramp higher in the second half and be a key contributor to revenue growth acceleration this year and next. For fiscal year 2025, we remain very confident and committed to full year total revenue growing double digit, and full year total cloud infrastructure growing faster than the 50% reported last year.

Okay. Let me now turn to guidance, which I'll review on a non-GAAP basis. In terms of currency, we've seen a dramatic shift due to significant strengthening of the US dollar. To put this in perspective in Q2 weeks, our expected currency to have a 3% positive effect on EPS for Q3 assuming exchange rates remain the same as they are now. Currency should have a $0.03 negative effect on EPS, and a 2% negative effect on revenue.

However, as the dollar strengthened, it may not hold out the whole quarter and may be different.

All right. Total revenues are expected to grow from 9% to 11% in constant currency and are expected to grow from 7% to 9% in USD at today's exchange rate. Total cloud revenue is expected to grow from 25% to 27% in constant currency and is expected to grow from 23% to 25% in USD.

non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 7% to 9% and be between a $1.50 and $1.54 in constant currency. non-GAAP EPS is expected to grow between 4% to 6% and be between a [$1.47 and $1.51 in USD]. I should mention that my Q3, EPS guidance is negatively impacted by a $0.05 -- by $0.05 due to an investment loss in another company that we are a partial owner of.

Lastly, my EPS guidance for Q3 assumes a base tax rate of 19%. However, like in Q2 onetime tax events and other things can cause actual tax rates to vary.

And with that, I'll turn it over to Larry for his comments.

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